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I am gardening in southwestern Pennsylvania, zone 6.These seeds have a reputation for slow and erratic germination. I bought some from Select Seeds a few years back, having tried to grow them previously with seeds from other companies, and failing. I finally succeeded with the seeds from Select Seeds, and was able to raise them to mature vines, easily 12 ft tall. The hummingbirds adore them!!!I am attaching a photo of a hummingbird using them. I would like to attach photos of my newly emergent seedlings, but looks like we can only do one photo.Suffice to say, I am currently sprouting Eccremocarpus seeds from Select Seeds and from another company, and the seeds from the other company are barely germinating, while the ones from Select Seeds and are doing great.I hope you will continue to carry these seeds, because you are the only company I can find that is selling quality Eccremocarpus seeds.