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Zone 7 TN. These seemed to take forever to germinate, but once they did I had very good success rate. The seeds are so tiny I had them all smothered together, Somehow with my poor cultural practices I still ended up with ten very strong and majestic plants. These were supberbly scented. I could watch hummers drinking from them . I would see bumblebees TRY to drink from them but could not get into the flower. The plant for me was very tall. I grew these on north side of house with lots of shade in retentive soil. These bloomed for a long time. The leaves alone are worth it. The leaves have a sticky residue that smells like tobacco. The flowers are gorgeous and unique. Good fragrance -- I could actually smell it during day too , not only at evening.